Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. In 1938, he became a salesman for Scott Foresman. Mary Lea Williams, a receptionist for Allyn & Bacon, said the move occurred two or three years before the assassination. Mr. DODD - I am a little confused, I suppose, (Whereupon, a recess was taken while the members of the Committee went to the floor of the House for a vote.). Mr. GOLDSMITH - I am not sure I am following, then, what specifically you did check. My efforts to follow up on the leads suggested by Harris were initially unsuccessful. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So that they would be routinely destroyed at the time of auditing? And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. When I got to the phone, two of the lines were lit up. Mr. CORNWELL - In the conversations which you have described occurring within a period of one, two or three months after the assassination with other CIA employees and officers, did they suggest in those conversations to you that their employment, the CIA's employment, of Oswald had any relation to the assassination or only that it related to the, events you have already described -- namely, the training of him in Atsugi in the Russian language and the sending of him to Russia and using of him as a double agent and that sort of thing? Mr. DODD - And the information given you occurred sometime three months after the actual assassination. Out of curiosity, he opened this door and saw a large storage area that took over half of the square footage of the fourth floor. Mr. CORNWELL - At several points in your testimony you have stated there were six or seven persons, and on each occasion you raised the extent of their knowledge as "knew" or "believed." Mr. CORNWELL - Let me rephrase it. Mr. WILCOTT - No. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, they were such incidents as the FBI agent that was working with a group -- and this was an established fact that this person was an FBI agent and that he wa working with the group that I was working with an antiwar group and, to my mind, there is a very great likelihood that this person was there to neutralize me, as the CIA term went. Why would anyone share the information that Oswald was an agent with you, Mr. Wilcott? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, actually even prior to the Kennedy, assassination, my wife and I both became disturbed about the stories that we kept hearing about things, control of newspapers and so on. [17] Gladys Cason, One Life, self-published book, 2004, pp. One label read Texas School Book Depository, 500 Red Pony books by John Steinbeck, from Bobbs-Merrill. Mr. WILCOTT - The basis for that is discussions that I had with people at the XXXXX Station. This book provides the first useful, in-depth analysis of the 120 phone calls by LBJ in the week following the assassination regarding such items as the Civil Rights Act, demands made by the military and similar political power plays. Larry Watanabi, XXXXXX Branch, Senior Case Officer; and XXXXXXXXXXX, deep commercial cover agent. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. Instead, he might have been one of the temporary musicians. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir; that was a smaller station. By the way, I am a Mr.not a Ms.as the letter from Mr. Blakey indicates. Mr. WILCOTT - On two other occasions, I was on KPOO Radio in San Francisco and I discussed in detail, in quite a bit of detail, the speculations and also the incident of the case officer contacting me at the window. Mr. WILCOTT - No. [10] Larry Ray Harris at the age of 44 died in an automobile accident on October 5, 1996. Mr. PREYER - Why did you resign from the CIA? Mr. WILCOTT - Not directly, no, sir. During a phone conversation, he told me that he had a letter that mentioned Shelley joining the CIA. There was a lot of excitement going on at the station after the Kennedy assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, you indicated that after receiving this information concerning Oswald's cryptonym, you went back to check some files, is that correct? * JFK Facts editorJefferson Morley will personally answer your JFK questions. Please try again. Yet judging by the disgust in his voice when he said at the police station Im just a patsy, he probably did not know that he would be the one accused of killing the president. [19] Immediately after Adams and Styles went out the back door, Officer Marion Baker came in through the front door and met Roy Truly. Mr. Wilcott. Obviously, if Shelly had been arrested, someone with the police had that record expunged. She said that there is a whole lot more to tell about the TSBD than what has been publishedthat the whole building should be suspected as more or less of a safe base to operate from that day in November 1963.[9]. He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. Currently he has been studying the Zodiac Killer case and writes for a website called zodiackilleridentified.com. Mr. PREYER - Under our committee rules, Mr. Wilcott, a witness is entitled, at the conclusion of the questioning, to make a five-minute statement if he wishes or to give a fuller explanation of any of his answers; so that at this time we make that five minutes available to you if you care to elaborate or say anything further. When the woman heard that Glaze was planning to go to the FBI, or had already been to the FBI, she was terrified and told him that she would deny everything. Retired TSBD vice president Ochus Campbell said the move took place about five years prior to the assassination. There was a fourth calm man, perhaps unnoticed by MacNeil, who was getting a coke on the second floor. That would have put it into 1964? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. The November 14, 1961 date came from Leon, Sexton branch manager in Dallas from 1961 to 1964. Write to Editor@jfkfacts.org. [7] Through some insider intrigue, a saleslady at Neiman Marcus found out what Jacqueline Kennedy was going to wear the day of her arrival in Dallas. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. I think you are making some important allegations here, and you have been very helpful in giving some witnesses' names through which we might be able to corroborate it, but I think it is very important that we know clearly how much of this was cocktail party talk and how much was shop talk and how much was speculation and rumor and how much was hard fact. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And were you dismissed by the agency or did you resign? It achieved commercial success in 1970 with a hit song called "Mr. Bojangles. In 1992, the band was still active, touring the country and recording albums. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What do you mean by the term "agent"? Mr. WILCOTT - Not to my knowledge. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you have any knowledge, based upon your tenure XXXXXXX as to who would have trained Oswald in the Russian language if that occurred? Mr. SAWYER - When you refer to Oswald as an agent, you are referring to the extent you have -- as an agent as opposed to a paid informer, in effect? There is an interesting paradox about this issue. Mr. DODD - I have no further questions. His tires were slashed and sugar was poured into his gas tank. Wilcott worked in the accounting department and was in charge of disbursement of cash funds. There were, as I recall, three men there, all I think in shirt sleeves. Elzie Dean Glaze passed away on November 15, 2019. Mr. SAWYER - What was the gist of them? Conditions at home and at work put a severe strain on Joes parents. GLAZE, Elzie Dean Age 66, is celebrated by his family for his compassion, humor and willingness to help family, friends and the world at large. We publish here the Wilcott affidavit and interrogation by the HSCA, declassified by the Assassination Records Review Board. [3] Telephone interviews of Campbell March 19, 1994; Jones, March 19, 1994; Williams, April 4, 1994; Garner, August 14, 1999. Mr. PREYER - That was shop talk, speculation, I gather; people were saying that the CIA is somehow connected with it. From about January of 1960 to about June of 1960, I was transferred to Finance Field Payroll, also, in this same building, on the Potomac. Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. Mr. GOLDSMITH - At the time you went to look at the book, Oswald was already dead is that correct? It was more of a casual kind of thing, to my way of thinking. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. In the mid-1970s, the band employed a ten-piece orchestra to back them up. 25-26. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir, I did. Mr. WILCOTT - That was November of 1977. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And your testimony has been truthful and candid? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I am sorry -- if Oswald was what? It was not until 1999 that I located and spoke with Leslie Thompson, one of the original members. the day we would list all of the advances that were made in an advance book. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. [11] Glaze misdated his letter as 12/12/74.. Bill Shelly claims he was arrested by the Dallas Police and formally charged with the assassination of President Kennedy. John F. Kennedy Subcommittee Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. I think we ought to state that the record shows that Mr. Sawyer is a member of the Kennedy Subcommitte Preyer. Roy Truly was, up to the time of his death in 1985, continuously frightened by "federal authorities." On November 22, 1963, there were sixty-nine people working in the building at 411 Elm Streetthirty-three for the TSBD and forty-six for the publishers. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, you did. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Upon your memory and the list that your brought with you today, will you tell the Committee the names of the CIA Case Officers who you remember working XXXXXXXXXX in 1963? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did this Case Officer tell you what Oswald's cryptonym was? Mr. DODD - Was he described as an agent to you or was he described as an operative or a paid informant? In the decades following that fateful day, former employees of these companies have been reluctant to answer questions. Mr. WILCOTT - I resigned. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - At the time that this allegation first came to your attention, did you learn the name of Oswald's Case Offficer at the CIA? The White House has announced that a trove of remaining records concerning the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy will not be released as planned, due to the COVID-19 pandemic . Mr. WILCOTT - -- to the Miami Station. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it never really came forward for you to go to the Warren Commission, did it? Insofar as I know, this information has never been made public. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. Henry Hurt, author of Reasonable Doubt, discovered such boxes while investigating the claims of an alleged conspirator. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. Upon request, the National Archives sent me a copy of the letter. Mr. WILCOTT - Not the files, no. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Not long after Oswald departed from the scene, Shelley told Truly that Oswald was missing. Mr. SAWYER - How long were you associated with that? However, please contact me before mentioning my name to anyone. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Mr. WILCOTT - It is based on the principle that only those persons who are involved in a project or involved in operation -- and even things that would not seem to be at all in any way secret -- only those people should know about, it and nobody else should know about it, and that was a "need-to-know" basis Mr. DODD - Did anyone else at the Agency know of your views at the Agency and did you communicate with other people about your dissatisfaction? [5] Interviews of Ted Leon and Thomas H. Butler. The day after their disappearance, an estimated 20 Dallas policemen pulled up on front of my apartment. Did you recognize any part of it, the first two letters or the last portions of it, as referring to any geographic area or any type of activity or anything like that? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And in what general capacity did you work with the CIA? For in Barry Ernests book, The Girl on the Stairs, the reader will read that both Vickie Adams and Sandy Styles told Barry that they did not see either Shelly or Lovelady when they descended from the fourth floor to the first. House of Representatives, Mr. WILCOTT - I have been trying to talk about this thing and other things for the last ten years. Apparently, security measures to keep people from talking continued even after they went into retirement or found other occupations. Spaulding Jones, former branch manager of MacMillan, said they moved in around 1957 or 1958. Other people who worked at the book depository suffered as well. They were co-hosts of a program called Alternative Views featuring news, interviews, and opinion pieces from a progressive point of view. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. His duties routinely brought him in contact with all station people, and in particular with operational agents. Please excuse this messy letter. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. I have some information concerning the assassination of President John Kennedy that I wish to submit for your scrutiny. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Anything they had there would have -- sometimes they used as many as two or three different cryptonyms and they would have -- it all depended on how far they wanted to isolate it from the original source, from the original source as to where the project was run. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. She said that she had been in the personnel department since 1982, and she never knew anyone by that name. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you know whether CIA Headquarters would have had either copies or originals of the cash disbursement files? Mr. WILCOTT - I do. Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, no. JFK FILES - The Roscoe White Story: -Grassy Knoll Assassin Or Hoax? Mr. GOLDSMITH - You have indicated that you were not inclined to go to the Warren Commission because you were concerned about their security? 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